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Templer Relleg
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Posted - 2007.02.09 20:49:00 -
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I honestly dont think its good enoug T20. You knew you were breaking the rules.
As pointed out. CCP is hitting the bottom. Its hard to believe in CCP now, when people like T20, who is the face of CCP to some extend to the outside(He were on Evetv several time), admits that he did such things. It being bob doesnt make it any better 
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Templer Relleg
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.09 21:37:00 -
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T20 should have his dev rights revoked from TQ for several months.
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Templer Relleg
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sephiraa THIS IS NOT OVER.
* T20, you claim there were 6 BPOs, but that's not true. There were more. What is the fate of the others? What about these BPOs? When are they being put back in the lottery? - Barrage S Blueprint - Barrage L Blueprint - Inferno Javelin Torpedo Blueprint - Malediction Blueprint - Quake L Blueprint
* We know there are other Devs still in BoB, and we know their names. What assurance do we have that this kind of corruption has come to an end? Do they need to be exposed as well, or will you make an effort on your own to insure the integrity of fair play in this game moving forward?
* T20 led BoB's capital fleet with full knowledge of the account sharing being used to create the cynonet. Accounts shared by all of the Directors in BoB. Every single one of those accounts should be fully banned, if not every single account owned by the BoB directors who took part in the account sharing. Considering other account sharing players have been banned, the answer about what to do here should be obvious.
* T20 led BoB's capital fleet, with inside knowledge of game mechanics, and somehow BoB just magically happens to control the largest amount of space. Is anything going to be done to balance this unfair advantage given to the BoB alliance?
* The financial gain given to BoB through early, and 'illegal' aquisition of those BPOs has a much large ripple effect in terms of economic and military power that needs to be balanced. What are CCPs plan to right that wrong?
* What is the nature and purpose of the Polaris vessels seen around GoonSwarm's moons as some of them are claiming? How can the players by sure the corruption is not still ongoing?
* Is a further level of scandal required to get LV's ill gotten Mothership removed? It would be sad, but I'm sure the community is willing to produce it, if CCP is unable to police themseves internally, as the Kugutsume's banning, and seeming coverup attempts suggest.
* Unban the whistleblower's account. This shouldn't even be up for debate. This whole scenario is reprehensible, and needs to be set right ASAP.
Personally, I don't care if T20 keeps his job or not, as I imgaine he'll not take such risks again. What I do care about is the negative impact on the entire EVE community, from the ripple effects of his cheating. For example, would ASCN be dead today, if T20 had chosen differently.
There is more required of CCP, and you better not fail us this time.
We need this questions to have adressed in a dev blog ASAP!!!!!
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Templer Relleg
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Devie Viviem Kugutshisname released RL info about a person....he was banned. Molle did the same yet he continues to play....for the alliance that appears to be shown the favoritism. Why is this? Whats being done? Is Molle holding something over CCP's head that would cause a Dev to risk his job to help them? Why do all the Dev's appear to be playing for BoB? (I have no doubt they are spread throughout the game though) Are they personal friends or have they worked together on other projects?
Some of these questions are what is being raised by your customers. Some can not be answered, but the ones that can need to be, and to your paying customers. But there are many more questions that now remain from known corruption inside the game from the people who develop the game. Did Cyvok indeed log of his Titan only to have a dev make it re-appear? Was a GM scouting a system for BoB a day prior to a war declaration? What is happening to the BPO's in question?....Why weren't they immediately removed from game?...What is happening to ALL proceeds that were made from them?...And are those just the ones your customers know about? What restitution will be given to alliances destroyed by BoB due to unfair favoritism? (yes we all continue to hear it wasn't an unfair advantage, they just play the game better...guess it helps to be a creator of the game in the first place. The argument can no longer be made that they had no inside information about game mechanics, or possible outside help) *What steps are in place to ensure your customers that this will not happen again and the game is returning to fair play? (having an internal affairs dept. is one step, but CCP is a relatively small company, and do they interact with the other employees personally on a daily basis? If so how do they stay objective and impartial?)
All this is what leaves doubt in the minds of players who love the game and want to continue playing.
This being said, I definitely don't think that a fellow human being should have a job he loves and a game he helped create taken from him. That essentially would ruin a person in RL for cheating in a GAME. If people would take a breath and think about this a little deeper I don't think there is a logical argument otherwise. (although again I refer to an earlier statement where thats what happened to a different employee) Developers should play the game. Hell, it was your game first, we just pay to play your game. However, I think that no matter what, sever limitations should be emplaced between employee and customer relations. There should be none. (otherwise there's really no sense in Jove space is there?)
We (the customer) have no doubt of your love of the Game. We love it too. But please be completely honest and open to us so that we know it will be around for a long time, and the allegations stop. (because slowly and surely they all seem to be coming true)
Thank-you for your time.....If you actually read this.
You win this thread! Very well written, sums it all up.
This is only the top of the iceberg. I can think of alot of cases which you didnt tell about, that is very likely to have been done by GM's/Devs.
For the sake of your customers and shareholders. Tell the truth, and the whole truth.
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Templer Relleg
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ervilha II So CCP knew all since summer and only remove the BPO's now ?!!
What does it for me, is that they didnt tell us anything, before a good guy uncovered the secret. Now CCP is suffering. But you made this situation yourself.
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Templer Relleg
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.12 09:19:00 -
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Time is ticking Kieron. You still havent answered any of our important questions, only the ones that doesnt matter. Its like digging your own grave.
I cant see why it should be so hard to answer our questions. If you arent covering up for something, you should be able to answer whatever we would ask.
We are close to 3000 posts now, and reaching 100 pages(Which breaks the thread?), filled with unhappy people. Dont let us down
Tick Tock.
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Templer Relleg
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.12 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Helox
Originally by: Templer Relleg Time is ticking Kieron. You still havent answered any of our important questions, only the ones that doesnt matter. Its like digging your own grave.
I cant see why it should be so hard to answer our questions. If you arent covering up for something, you should be able to answer whatever we would ask.
We are close to 3000 posts now, and reaching 100 pages(Which breaks the thread?), filled with unhappy people. Dont let us down
Tick Tock.
A bit harsh, but yeah, I'd expect SOME sort of statement by now...
That was somewhat intended. Ofc. i dont wanna be too harsh. But i feel like CCP dont care about us right now. And thats just sad.
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Templer Relleg
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.12 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: merc999 Edited by: merc999 on 12/02/2007 09:34:36 An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if a player: * a. Has had four previous warnings for breaking any rules set forth in the EULA, Terms of Service or other rules or guidelines. * b. Divulges private and/or personal information about another subscriber or an official EVE Online representative through the EVE Online client or web site.
Unless of course your character name is Sir Molle in which case its ok apparently
Im afraid thats the case. I dont honestly see them banning Sir Molle. It would be a major thing for eve, to lose a titan. Some might(Like me) argue that it would be for that better good. But then again, bob would begin whinning with their alts  But they would get into more trouble for not following their EULA.
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